George Soros gave Ivanka's husband's business a $250 million credit line in 2015 per WSJ. Soros is also an investor in Jared's business.

Tuesday, November 22, 2011

New ClimateGate emails released, climate alarmist says even if hockey stick is disproved 'it's of tiny importance' to the existence of AGW

Update, 1/15/12, "Just FYI: I'm reading all of the ClimateGate 2.0 emails," Tom Nelson

"For a while, I was looking at the ClimateGate 2.0 emails by searching them for certain names and keywords. Now, my plan is to read all 5,349 of them at this link. I didn't want to start at #1, so I started at #5000, read to the end, then went back to 4,000. I'm currently about 1,000 emails into this project."...

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Update: "Climategate 2 FOIA 2011 Searchable Database"

Below an alarmist commenter deals with adversity by changing the subject and saying "everyone knows" such and such and it's "irrelevant" to global warming anyway. (Hockey Stick graph at end of this post). New ClimateGate emails announced:

FOIA2011.zip, MegaUpload, via Climate Audit

11/22/11, "New Climategate Emails," Steve McIntyre, Climate Audit

"New climategatedossier here. [Update - try here]

See notice from “FOIA” here and subsequent comments as well as discussion at Jeff Id here.

I’ll comment later after I have a chance to look at things."

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Below, a climate alarmist commenter to Climate Audit says even if certain hockey stick measurements weren't true, it's irrelevant and of "tiny importance to the whole issue of AGW."

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From comments at 1:28pm

11/22/11, "chriscolose
Posted Nov 22, 2011 at 1:28 PM | Permalink | Reply

Craig, I really have no desire to respond to you, but everyone who studies this subject knows the data is wrong (anyone can look at the instrumental record and see this trivially). The problem is also known to apply primarily to only a particular subset of tree rings, and trees in different regions are known to respond differently to various factors. This is not my field, but to be blunt I’d trust a dendroclimatologist to tell me more about the limitations and current understanding than anyone here.

Of course, I didn’t say that the pre-divergence data is “right,” but again, that is irrelevant to the accusations related to climategate. Personally, I agree there is a lot of progress to be made in tree ring science, and whether tree rings are dubious or not, and what they may have the potential to tell us, is largely irrelevant to what I focus on. It’s also

  • and almost entirely

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2/6/2008, "SEC Denies Lehman Brothers Bid to Block Global Warming Shareholder Proposal," Reuters

When a $34 billion company is touting misinformation as a basis for its
actions, it makes you wonder about the soundness of its business plan,” Milloy
added.

But the hockey stick graph was scientifically discredited long before Lehman issued its February 2007 report.(2)"...

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Even the UK Guardian said in 2009 the 'climate' movement was about "transfer of money:"

11/29/2009. "Copenhagen summit: It's money that matters in the backroom talks," UK guardian, John Vidal

"Copenhagen may lead over the next 20 years to the largest transfer of money in history from the global north to the south."...

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Hockey Stick graph:

Hockey Stick showing McIntyre correction in green via Volokh (scroll down)

12/4/2009, "Looking Back at the Hockey Stick Thesis: The JoNova Account," Jim Lindgren, Volukh

"Astonishingly, Nature refused to publish the (McIntyre) correction. It was published elsewhere, and backed up by the Wegman Report, an independent committee of statistical experts.

In 2009 McIntyre did it again with Briffa’s Hockey Stick. After asking and waiting three years for the data, it took just three days to expose it too as baseless. For nine years Briffa had concealed that he only had 12 trees in the sample from 1990 onwards, and that one freakish tree virtually transformed the graph. When McIntyre graphed another 34 trees from the same region of Russia, there was no Hockey Stick.

The sharp upward swing of the graph was due to one single tree in Yamal.

Skeptical scientists have literally hundreds of samples. Unskeptical scientists have one tree in Yamal, and a few flawed bristlecones". . .

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9/17/08, "Lehman Brothers Close Ties to Gore, Hansen, and Carbon Trading," IceCap via Tom Nelson



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